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  Marijuana for migraines?

  by Odrade in

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  so yesterday i had such bad migraine (with all of its accompanying symptoms...) that i ended up at er for narcotics and re-hydration.

  this was after excruciating pain for 7-8 hours thinking "just a little more time and it'll easy up.

  " wrong.. anyways, they grogged me up with atavan, thorazine and one other i can't recall... and i'm still pretty unsteady on my feet today.

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  Mr Ben

  Instead of smoking it try making a tea. It isn't going to harm your lungs that way and maybe you could pass it off as a herbal remedy to your hubby!
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  HELLO from FRANCE

  by frenchbabyface in

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  maverick, your favorite reporter checking in from paris.

  i am enjoyiny the hospitality of frenchbabyface and will check out the french open on friday!

  hope you are all having as good a time as i am!

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  Hey! I'm heading to Paris tomorrow night! I'll be there on Saturday and I think we are going to the races on Sunday!
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  how far would you have gone?

  by zen nudist in

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  i recall while i was just a new jw how horrified i was at the "brother" who was bringing me along.... when he told me that he was so sure about the governing body being jehovah's mouth piece, that if one day they announced--this is it, this is the end, kill any and all non-jws in your path....he would do it.

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  ...and do not show mercy to old man, virgin or child.

  We were all infected with Jehovah's fascist ranting. The only difference between the WTS & Al Qaida is the WTS is just praying for it to happen, wheras Osama is actually doing it. Different ends of the same wedge.
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  The day a brother died in my Hall, & the unbelievable events that followed.

  by Mr Ben in

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  2. friends

  this one really freaked me out.

  i was so brainwashed at the time i found a way to justify it.

  i think i?ve been repressing my anger about this and now i need to vent.

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  Mr Ben

  I should have put this under "friends" not "bible"
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  The day a brother died in my Hall, & the unbelievable events that followed.

  by Mr Ben in

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  this one really freaked me out.

  i was so brainwashed at the time i found a way to justify it.

  i think i?ve been repressing my anger about this and now i need to vent.

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  This one really freaked me out. I was so brainwashed at the time I found a way to justify it. I think I?ve been repressing my anger about this and now I need to vent.

  Basically, a brother, a really nice guy, had a heart attack and began to die during the ministry school. A brother ran off to the fire station as they had some lifesaving skills whilst we waited for the ambulance.

  Would you believe it, the PO got up and said words to the effect that nothing is to stop us feeding at Jehovah?s table! Yep ? the show must go on! And it did. Everyone sat there listening to the talk trying to ignore what was happening. It was a total parody of what spirituality is supposed to be about. Rules first, people third (rules second too).

  The fire brigade arrives. The talk continues. I?m mortified at the unfolding sickening spectacle. I looked at the faces of the firemen and it said it all, ?These Witnesses are totally heartless bastards. One of there own is dieing, and they just carry on, business as usual.?

  Then the paramedics arrived. And still the talk about some bullshit went on. The paramedics began the electric shock therapy to try and re-start his heart. Poor guy is lying there with his shirt ripped open, face gone blue.

  And still the talk went on, and on, and on. Just about all the sisters, all the children and half the brothers were openly weeping. Eventually the whole situation got so upsetting that the elder giving the talk just couldn?t continue.

  Up got the PO again. ?Under the circumstances the women and children should go home. The brothers should remain.? Of course, almost no-one left as the families came together in the same car. I liked the PO but I could have knocked him out cold that day. Eventually, human compassion just, and I tell you only just, won the day and the meeting was cancelled. It took a brother dying on the floor to put the rules second, and I tell you that if the ?worldly? people (you know, the ?evil? ones) had not been present that meeting would have continued right to the end.

  I was utterly ashamed and felt at the time that a great reproach had been heaped upon Jehovah?s name. I was disgusted.

  But this episode only comes second in my WitchTower shame archives. I?ll relate that another day.

  Did I mention how glad I am to be out?
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  Do you still get embarrassed by it?

  by Mr Ben in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the other night in the pub a guy pipes up, "hey, how you doing mate?

  then proceeds to inform everyone that i used to try and convert him to jwism about 8 years ago.

  i say, "how you doing dave?"...

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  Ok Computer,

  I've not been to the USA yet, but you can elaborate if you want. Tell me, if your still active and proud of it surely you know you are sinning by being here!

  Anyway, I am embarrassed because I helped disseminate lies, for example, the multitude of lies, misinformation and adulterated quotations in the Evolution/Creation book. How do you feel proud to be part of an organisation that has no hesitation in using lies to convert innocent people to it?s religious system or keeping existing members in an intellectual void? What is there to be proud about? Being part of a lying organisation?

  At least my embarrassment tells me my moral compass is working again. Yes, I am ashamed at being involved with lying to people just to get them in the cult. However, that is mollified by the fact that did not know at the time I was distributing lies. Do you know what woke me up? It was an article about the fake chimp on Jan H?s old site. You can follow a previous discussion at

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/17501/1.ashx
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  What's the craziest thing you ever heard at the Kingdom Hall or Assembly?

  by Mr Ben in

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  what's the craziest thing you ever heard at the kingdom hall or assembly hall?

  there were lots of crazy ideas coming from elders, co's & do's in my neck of the woods, but one in particular sticks in my mind.

  it was the very last circuit assembly at hellerby in yorkshire (hell!

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  Badger, the Leeds Utd football shop was open on Fridays & Saturdays, and we had to allow access to fans if they wanted to enter the grounds to go to the shop.

  Willyoman, what was "Beware the Voice of a Stranger" ?
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  Need Input on DF committee hearings, please

  by robhic in

  1. watchtower
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  i would like to ask, specifically, the ladies here who have been subjected to a jc hearing, preferrably for fairly serious reasons, to write a quick summary of the humiliation, etc.

  that went on during this process.

  anybody who has participated in a jc hearing is welcome to add.

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  The WT ever changing position regarding rape is truly staggering in brutality towards the victim. No doubt at the time NO SCREAM=YOU WANTED IT

  Several times they changed position on Rape. You can research these: Watchtower, January 15, 1964, p.63 (scream or be disfellowshipped) Aid To Bible Understanding, 1969 pp. 601, 1371 (No, If you dont scream you wont be disfellowshipped) Awake!, March 8, 1974 p.14 (Yes, Scream) Awake!, July 8, 1980 pp.5-6 (No, You dont have to scream) Watchtower, Oct 15,1980 p.7 (Yes, Scream) Watchtower, March 15, 1983, p.30 (No, You dont have to scream) Awake!, February 22, 1984 (Yes, Scream) Awake!, June 8, 1984 (No, dont scream) Awake! May22, 1986 p.23 (Yes, Scream) Awake! September 22, 1986, p.28 (No, you dont have to scream or be disfellowshipped)

  (EXTRACT FROM

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/71593/1136864/post.ashx#1136864 )
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  Were there ever any fisticuffs in the KH?

  by badboy in

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  any takers?

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  Not at the Hall, but there was a fight between two young brothers at the ice rink. Now the ice rink at that time was about the only place young JW's could meet up, so long as it was all organised by some parent. Guess what happened after the fight? The CO sent a letter to the circuit banning everyone from the ice rink!

  I remember thinking that if two brother had a fight and they were wearing shoes, then all shoes would have to be banned!
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  What's the craziest thing you ever heard at the Kingdom Hall or Assembly?

  by Mr Ben in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what's the craziest thing you ever heard at the kingdom hall or assembly hall?

  there were lots of crazy ideas coming from elders, co's & do's in my neck of the woods, but one in particular sticks in my mind.

  it was the very last circuit assembly at hellerby in yorkshire (hell!

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  Oh yes, the advice we were given at the District Assembly at Leeds United football stadium:

  ?If a gang of worldly football fans come in and start causing trouble, just surround them but keep your hand by your sides at all times even if they get violent.?

  Were they joking? Not using your hands in a fight with Leeds United football supporters? Call the ambulance! We?ll stare them into submission!